Transcript: Poems on Air, Episode 62 - Mai Der Vang

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LYNNE THOMPSON: Hello! My name is Lynne Thompson, Poet Laureate for the City of Los Angeles and I’m so happy to welcome listeners to this installment of Poems on Air, a podcast supported by the Los Angeles Public Library. Every week, I’ll present the work of poets I admire, poets who you should know, and poets who have made a substantial and inimitable contribution to the art and craft of poetry.

LYNNE THOMPSON: Two California poets were finalists for the 2022 Pulitzer Prize for Poetry and one of those was Mai Der Vang. In addition to the Pulitzer, her collection Yellow Rain was also a finalist for the PEN/Voelcker Award for Poetry and the L.A. Times Book Prize in Poetry. Yellow Rain has been described as a book that “combines archival research and declassified government documents to examine the biological warfare committed against Hmong refugees at the end of the Vietnam War”. Mai Der Vang teaches in the MFA Program in Creative Writing at Fresno State.

LYNNE THOMPSON:Today’s poem is "They Think Our Killed Ones Cannot Speak to Us" by Mai Der Vang.

They Think Our Killed Ones Cannot Speak to Us


As if to adjourn all
oxygen from the neck

is how they try to take
the voice   As if attempts

to render us pale   Ripped
lungless from woke into

wild ash   As if ashes
cannot blink howl testify

with the pulse of their own
tatters   As if hymn and

whistle   Hail and pour
We’e seen how they

shame the light   Stripped
hollow tearing out

filigrees of stars from
protocols of dust to make

drink a bouquet of venom
sprayed down a constellation’s

throat   They must be so
earless as if we’ve no legs

to kneel   We are each
other’s memory of the

future forty years from 
here  Arriving at ourselves

by way of the dead
History will not beget

powder will not beget
myth will not make us

into marginalia   As ever
possessed by what we

have lost   There are no
language barriers in the

afterlife   A toxin is a 
toxin is a toxin in the man

made truth is the dead who
leave everything behind



LYNNE THOMPSON: The Los Angeles Poet Laureate was created as a joint program between the City’s Department of Cultural Affairs and the Los Angeles Public Library and this podcast is available wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening!

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